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Q: Stimulants-Antidepressants-Dopamine
I have been diagnosed with both bipolar and ADD. I understand
these disorders often overlap. I have been begging my doctor to put me
on a stimulant, but she is being very cautious about it even though stimulants
helped me in the past. I have read stimulants do not always make bp
people manic. Are they less likely than antidepressents to cause a
switch to mania because they stimulate dopamine instead of serontonin?
My second question is I've noticed doctors sometimes presribe drugs that
offset each other. If a doctor prescribed wellburtin for depression along with
an antipsychotic wouldn't they both counteract each other since antipyshcotics
supposedly inhibit dopamine?
I'm very interested in the relationship of dopamine to bipolar and add. I
wonder if they are really the same disorder.
Dear Ms. S' --
Good questions. I wish we really knew some of the answers. First,
re: trying stimulants. Looks to me like there's less data implicating
stimulants as "destabilizing" in bipolar disorder than for
antidepressants causing that problem, so with caution I will indeed use them
if a person is already on a mood stabilizer and doing well except for
attention problems. That has worked out pretty well so far, but I'm
still cautious (seems like it can take a year or two or even more sometimes
for antidepressants to become a bad thing in bipolar disorder, and there are
other doctors reporting keeping people on antidepressants with mood
stabilizers routinely and doing well -- so there is a precedent of sorts for
proceeding with long term stimulants. At least that's what I tell myself
when I do this...).
As to whether the fact that stimulants affect
dopamine, where antidepressants affect serotonin (most do, but not all; and
Wellbutrin, which also can cause mania/hypomania, affects dopamine and
norepinephrine) means that they're safer somehow -- we don't understand how it
all works well enough to think that way. Ditto, therefore, the
relationship between bipolar and add and dopamine: we have only the slightest
understanding of how these neurochemicals are involved, and no where near
enough to answer your question, unfortunately. It is still a good
question though, and that's why I look forward to my journals every month:
"what did they figure out this time?!"
Dr. Phelps
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