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Q: Daughter is Out of Med Options
My 15yo daughter was diagnosed with bipolar disorder with psychotic features
2 years ago. We have tried all the usual drugs and she is no better.
She is unable to attend school or have anything approaching a normal life. She
was hospitalized twice, but times coming out worse than when she was admitted
probaly due to the stress of the hospital. Her current medication regimen is
lithium, seroquel, and klonopin and her psychiatrist has mitted that he and
other experts he has consulted with are out of options as far as medication
goes. They are recommending ECT which we are very afraid of. I read with
interest your article on thyroid and bipolar disorder. Our psychiatrist said
that since her thyroid hormones are WNL that this isn't the problem. Can
you recommend someone in the NY city area who might be more receptive to this
idea. We also took my to the pfeiffer clinic(orthomolecular medicine0 and
they diagnosed low histamine and hypoglycemia, both of whic I know can be
connected to thyroid. So far the vitamin regimein hasn't worked and it is
nearly
impossible to get my unstable, inflexible daughter to follow a hypoglycemic
diet. She acutally held a knife to her throat, threatening to kill herself
if I didn't get white bread for her lunch. Any help would be appreciated. Thank
you.
Dear Ms. K' --
If the doc's really are saying they've tried everything they can think of, I'd
be quite surprised at that. It takes me several years in adults to feel
"out of options". Think about it: there are at least 5 or six
well-recognized mood stabilizers, including lithium, Depakote, carbamazepine,
lamotrigine for sure; and fairly good research to suggest that verapamil
deserves to be on this list, as it clearly helps some folks although some
studies are not as positive (compared to the data we have so far on the first 4,
for example). Then there's "hypermetabolic" thyroid hormone,
i.e. high dose, more than our usual physiologic production, so the person is
almost certain to become hyperthyroid (this is the approach to which it seems to
me that T3/T4 might be an alternative, as you've read -- but the high dose T4
approach has some pretty good data behind it, much more than my approach so far;
either way, thyroid seems clearly related to bipolar disorder somehow, and it is
not at all "way out" to put thyroid hormone of one form or another on
this list).
So, once all those have been tried (presuming the
"bipolar" diagnosis is really solid), then there are the combinations
to be tried. Most of these medications can be used together, with a few
combo's that have interactions to be mindful of (especially Depakote/lamotrigine;
some would include lithium/carbamazepine and verapamil/lithium; and
carbamazepine interacts with almost everything, but only by lowering levels of
the others, so it's safe to do, just a little tricky). Ok, how many
combinations can you make of six agents? How about if you can use three
together at one time, as a next step to try? You can see, this goes on for
a long time. There are plenty of patients out there who don't respond well
until three or even four and once in a while 5 medications are used
simultaneously (this long list usually includes a medication for sleep and
sometimes a medication for agitation, and occasionally a medication for
psychosis too; so it's not necessarily five mood stabilizers). And
any trial that was conducted with an antidepressant around, which is often the
case especially before the diagnosis gets nailed down, has to be conducted again
without the antidepressant! This takes a very long time, as you can
imagine. So I find it hard to believe that all these approaches have been
tried. Now, in her doc's defense, many of these agents are not routinely
used (especially their combinations) in kids. I'm not a child/adolescent
psychiatrist, so it may be that there are many fewer routine medication
approaches to bipolar disorder that the kid-doc's use, and they may well have
tried all of those. Seems like then, if the patient's still not better, it
would be time to start using the rest of what we use in adults. I'd go
there before orthomolecular, myself. Check out my little essay on
hope,
as an example of what I'm driving at here.
In any case symptoms like those that you describe
would be overwhelming to handle on your own, so you'll need a psychiatrist
helping you (and a family therapist, perhaps, as well); so you'll have to be
careful to mind your politics and keep trying to get more options considered
without alienating the doc with your advocacy. That, as I fear you may
already have learned, can be really tricky and can slow the process down yet
further. Good luck pursuing that tricky balancing act.
Dr. Phelps
Published
May, 2002
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